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“A lot of it was done by third parties rather than the staff themselves. That’s not to defend it, because obviously you were running the results of their work. I’m quite happy to be parked in the corner of tabloid beast and to have to sit here defending all these things I used to get up to, and I make no pretence about the stuff we used to do.”

(Morgan later said he had been answering a wide-ranging question about journalistic methods and that his answer should not be interpreted as admitting to or condoning illegality.)